Discussion about this post

User's avatar
Allan MacInnis's avatar

Enjoyed this review and agree with you about the deep problems with Seydor's two versions of this film (you realize that the actor playing the coffin-maker is played by Peckinpah himself, right? If I recall correctly, he's completely excised from Seydor's previous version of the film, which is a pretty striking bit of arrogance, to remove the director from his own movie. He's put him back in as a token gesture, but only briefly). Loved what you say about "What you want and what you get," however (and quoted you in a blog review, which I hope you do not mind). That one omitted line wrecks what Seydor has done for me. I actually think the preview cuts sprawl too much, NEED the tightening, and in fact appreciate for the most part how the Seydor cuts play, EXCEPT for taking the most powerful line of dialogue from the film, the most direct expression of its theme, the best piece of WRITING in the film and snipping it. It's mind-boggling that this line has now been cut from at least THREE DIFFERENT VERSIONS of the movie, and it's even WORSE this time for Seydor, who surely knows that people disliked his choice here, having had a chance to re-instate it, then persisting in not doing so. It turns his versions of the film from "improvement" to "insult," repeats the arrogance, doubles down on the error... and it leaves us stuck with the preview cuts, sprawling and unfinished as they are, as the only respectful way to appreciate this film... Gahhh.

Which I say at some greater length here, and quote you (with attribution): https://alienatedinvancouver.blogspot.com/2024/10/rip-kris-kristofferson-plus-pat-garrett.html

Anyhow, nice piece of writing.

Expand full comment
Jesse Shanks's avatar

Very much enjoyed this review. Good mixture of factual aspects of the different versions and the opinion and perceptions of the reviewer. I saw the original in the theater as a teenager and I have seen some "restored" version at some point. The thing that stands out to me is excellent way that Peckinpaugh portrays that transformation from the violent, lawless west to the modern age with tamed towns, rules, and accountability. Some of Billy's crowd are constantly on the run and in danger of getting killed, while former running buddies like Bell, have become citizens and lawmen, in some cases hunting their old friends. The nostalgic feeling for a glorious past that never existed is the inevitable result of the shifting paradigms of human progress. The death of Billy the Kid is the death of a dream in the face of inevitably.

Expand full comment
5 more comments...

No posts